OLD REEL COLLECTORS
Reels of the Past and Some Still Here => PENN REELS => Topic started by: gt2003 on April 04, 2022, 12:08:14 PM
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After taking apart and servicing the PENN 350 Leveline and the Ocean City 112 (before Wompus Cats improvements), what are some good Penn models for me to refurbish and what are some good price points for them? This has become quite fun for me so I thought I'd track down a project or two and see how they come out. I know there are quite a few on eBay but I also see them regularly listed on my local facebook marketplace. Thanks in advance.
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ANY OLDER PENN ....lol\
AND as far as Price ,,,,thats a Tuffy as I pay too much for what I want but try to compare past sales on e-bay to judge worth.
I loathed Penns til I started talking to Ted (MAXED OUT) and saw all you can do to them with all the HOT ROD parts you can get for them . Just start buying them you will see .
You ain't a Reel Builder till you build a Senator 113 with all the GOODIES ....lol
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Long Beach,Squidders, Jigmasters, Beachmasther Peers, and Gobs more .
Ted knows em all .
Going to start posting some Customized Penns in the NEW Board Ted suggested soon .
https://oldreelcollectors.com/index.php/board,45.0.html
For Ocean City , I like the ones like you have but my Favorite is the 922 and 923 . Quite a REEL and overlooked by many
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Geeze Henry, nice harem of 113H you have there. It's nice to be able to upgrade your reel and have it be unique to any other. The 113H has more upgrade options than any other reel on the planet
Well, I'll go a little off the beaten path here. One of the most overlooked and under appreciated Penn reels is the 309. It has Jigmaster 500 main gear and long beach 60 pinion, for a 3/1 gear ratio. This makes it stronger than a 4/1 jigmaster. The 309 is well built and fishes great as stock configuration, but there are a few options for upgrades. Handle assembly, steel gear sleeve, seat, and aluminum spool. I stick with the good old USA made 309's. If it's china made, it wont say "made in USA" on the tailplate. A really nice 309 can be had on eBay for $25-35. Parts for the 309 are easy to locate, swo no worries about it becoming obsolete
The red one shown here is one I dreamed up. The black one is bone stock and really nice condition and came with original box for $26+8 shipping(eBay)
Mad Max
P.S. spellcheck still never heard of a jigmaster
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Geeze Henry, nice harem of 113H you have there. It's nice to be able to upgrade your reel and have it be unique to any other. The 113H has more upgrade options than any other reel on the planet
I got a lots more to show .
in the CUSTOMIZED PENN BOARD soon including the 1 OF ONLY FOUR MAXED OUT ALL MATCHING RED 113 ,s
BULLET PROOFED Cortez Plates ,10 tooth SS Sleeve ,SS Gears,SS Dual Dogged Bridge Plate, Carbon Tex Drags ,MAXED OUT BLADE , Reel Wrecker Knob Custom Painted by yours Truly to match your Blade (Kinda)but best of ALL
THE LAST ALL RED Yellow Tail Special MAXED OUT KIT .
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Ok, I think I'll start with a 309 and see how that goes. Not sure I need another hobby but I sure do like tinkering with reels. Thanks Gentlemen!
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It is a GOOD ADDICTION or AFFLICTION (Not Too Sure).
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I found a local seller offering a Penn 80, Ocean City Brigantine and a Shakespeare 1905 Deuce FK in box, all 3 total for $30. Good deal? Sounds like it to me. IF there’s anything wrong w them, can i likely find parts?
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Yepper go get em or send me the link .........
I got the pix you sent and what I could tell the Penn 80 is pretty old with the rogh side plates (Ted will know) and the Maroon Side plates on the Brigantine is also pretty awesome . THe shaky spear is 1951 .
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Here are the Reels Greg is getting
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I believe I found the Penn 80 Schematic on mysticparts.com. Does anyone have the schematics for the Brigantine or the 1905 Deuce?
It doesn't look like any of them have drags, am I right? Are they all Thumb Drag or maybe even a knuckle buster in there somewhere?
Thanks gentlemen.
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You won't need them Reely ,they are soooo simple and NOPE no Drags.
I Have a Factory Manual on the Ocean City and will post the Brigantine , Prob have the Penn and Skaky Speare too .
Will dig them out and start a Schematics Board for future stuff we can add to as we go along .
Maybe just a schematic Thread in each Reel type like Penn and one in Ocean City ,Shakespear ,,,and so on . Huh ?
The Brigantine was made Quite a few Years and early ones have a Key-way cut in the Sleeve that slides over the Bridge so watch for that.
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I think that would be an excellent idea on the Schematics. Penn's seem pretty easy to find and there seems to be a handful of the Ocean City's available but not for the Brigantine (that I could find anyway) and the Shakespeare, pretty much nothing.
Well, these will be interesting for me I'm sure. I'm not familiar with what a key-cut is but I'm about ready to find out!
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Ok, Google is my friend. I DO know what a key way cut is, I just didn't know that I knew it... ???
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So i got the reels today. All seem to function perfectly. I’ve never worked with bakelite before. How do i ‘buff out’ the sideplates? I can buy steel wool, already have multiple automobile rubbing compunds etc. just not sure what to do. Help me out here folks!!
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Well post some pix so we can see how bad or Good they are ?
I use super FINE steel wool to start with and gradually do some sanding using many different grades to get surface scratches out Then use polishing Compounds to get the luster I want and finish off with several coats of Carnuba Wax .
If you just want to spiff them up use hot soapy water and a used dish scouring pad .(one of those Green Fiber meshed ones)dry em off then my 3M spray Wet Type Silicone Spray and it will shine like a Big Diamond in a Fat Goats Ass.
Any and all of the above you can use .
If the Penn is the one I THINK it is you prob don't want to do any sanding on those as it would diminish the raised surfaces on them .
Pix please.......
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Here’s a few pictures of the Penn 80 and the Ocean City Brigantine. I’ll get some of the Shakespeare later but these are the most important ones to me. All i’ve done so far is spray some WD40 on the sideplates, lightly scrub w a toothbrush and take picutes.
The Penn turns very smoothly already so i don’t think it’s going to take much work.
The Ocean City is another story. Look at the screwdriver slots. They are very, very narrow. I’ve tried multiple screwdrivers and am having difficulty finding anything that fits. The reel turns but is somewhat sluggish. I’m expecting to find old, nasty grease in there but I’ve got to get in there first. Any ideas? Only
My very smallest screwdriver (the same one i use for taking put the small sideplate screws) will even fit in the slot but it’s not wide enough to get any torque behind it to get the screw turning. I have a large screwdriver that is the perect width but it’s just way too thick. I’m kind of at a loss right now.
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Good looking Reels so far
A good set of Gunsmith Screwdrivers are an Essential Tool in reel Repair and service
Bald Eagle Made some of the Best in the World but no longer .
Here is a pretty good deal on Cramazon
https://www.amazon.com/Grace-USA-Screwdriver-Gunsmithing-Screwdrivers/dp/B0030HL5O0/ref=sr_1_22?gclid=Cj0KCQjwgMqSBhDCARIsAIIVN1U7ija6HbZDzDpjxyPlQAl12-AjMHAVHEqlrX_xIxktZVvAToXDCxAaArfyEALw_wcB&hvadid=409954619932&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9027454&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=17946889908288663713&hvtargid=kwd-11365409127&hydadcr=24627_11409941&keywords=gunsmithing+screwdriver+set&qid=1649611853&sr=8-22
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Thankfully they weren’t tight and used the back of a razor blade to unscrew them but yes, gonna have to upgrade something in the screwdriver department! I’ve got one side of the sideplate screws loosened and the other side is soaking in a small spray of wd-40. I think i’ll be able to get those loose here in a bit. Interested to see what the inside looks like
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Brigantine help please. First off, under the handle is a collar. This one is fairly oxidized and split all the way through, intentional or not. The collar is about 1/2 inch across and 1/4 gallon inch deep.
2nd issue Is the spool gear. It’s broken off in a couple of places. I don’t have a schematic so i’m not sure if its removable or replaceable but there is definitely an issue with this. I know some folks have parts so let me know if u do so I can fix this one.
I’ve got the rest of the pieces soaking in gas right now to remove the junk from them. I’ll be able to get a better feel for things tomorrow.
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Pics of my problems!
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The Gear (Pinion ) is fine . That is a Recess to fit over the Mandrel underneath.
The Sleeve ......ain't seen one quite like that ..need to do some checking .
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There are at least 4 versions of the Brigantine (AKA OCEAN CITY 111)
I have all of them and schematics BUT Schematics are in the Factory Manual I have and will have to Scan them for here . here is a jist .
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Here is a link to our Gallery Here that shows on of my BRIGANTINES Disassembled that Might Help .
https://oldreelcollectors.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=28
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This looks like maybe CORK ? or is it Metal ?
Some sort of Shim someone stuck in there ?.
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Good info on the pinion gear. That's a relief.
The sleeve/collar is a bit strange. I am in agreement that it's an 'aftermarket' addition. It's made of some type of pot metal that's partially oxidized so I'm not sure at all where that came from. I'm guessing that can just be done away with??
I've got all internals soaking in gasoline (outside) for the time being. Hopefully I'll have time this evening to get them out, scrub them down with a toothbrush and get ready for reassembly. Then I'll work on reconditioning the sideplates. I've got to get some fine steelwool so I can work further on removing the oxidation and junk from the other parts. The shaft mechanism is turning much more freely now with the initial soaking in gasoline. I need to get the main gear off the shaft so I can get that whole thing scrubbed down as well.
Making progress!