Ok, here is another pre war Penn. The long beach 60. 1941 saw many changes in some of Penn models. The long beach 60&65 changed to plastic spools. The plastic spool continued thru 1947. Penn did offer a metal spool for the 60&65 during this time, but it was optional and extra cost. The pre war plastic spool 60&65 we're boxed with a label that designated L.S. on the label, which means "lightweight spool". The plastic spool has larger arbour than the metal spool, and has less line capacity, but the pre war L.S. models still stated the same 250yds for the 60 & 300yds for the 65. In 1946&47 the yardage was corrected to 200yds & 250yds for the 60&65, and the label no longer had the L.S. designation.



 So now that you're totally confused, I have here a 1942 Long Beach  60 in correct pre war box and it does have plastic spool, but no L.S. designation on the label, but the label also doesn't mention metal spool, so yes, this is a 1942 Long Beach 60 with correct box. This can all be very confusing, but small tidbits can solve most questions. The spool does have the pre war lip, and all parts are non numbered and era correct. The Long Beach60&65 came with non clamp seat, but from 1941-47 Penn offered a clamp seat option for the 60&65. It was a very expensive upgrade @ $2.50 on a $5.50 reel, so Penn used them up as standard equipment on the 1941 & 1942 L S. 60& & 65's as well. If you find a lb60 with a clamp seat, you have a tough reel to find, but they are out there. 1941/42 were the only years the lb 60 had a clamp seat as standard equipment(not an upgrade) according to the catalogs.



 Here is 1942 Long Beach 60 with no L.S. designation, but it is definitely pre war (250yds) and has correct spool, and also has the clamp seat that Penn put on almost every 1941/42 plastic spooled Long Beach 60.


 
.....more to come

Maxed Out sent me a pic off e-bay of a Odd Positioned Penn 9/0 with the Logo nearly UPSIDE DOWN
which started me to thinking so.......
Here are some pictures of the Penn 115 9/0 with the right side plate Logos in Different positions .
For what Reason ? Who knows .
May be a year of production thing ,factory fubar ,someone playing with the molds ??
But notice some of the Logo's are on the Right of the free Spool Lever in different angles and some are on the Left of the Lever also at different angles and Print Size and shape also Varies on some .
One that Recently Sold on E-Bay   appears to be UPSIDE DOWN



Here is one  with Ball Bearings with the  Logo almost Straight Up and on Left of Free Spool Lever (which from what I have seen is the Most Common listed on E-Bay.)


Here is another Early non Ball Bearing with the Logo SIDEWAYS on the Right of the Free Spool Lever.



Here is an EARLY non Bearing with SMALL PRINTED LOGO on the Right of Free Spool Lever Straight Up or close to it . And NOTICE How it Does  Not Have the External  Removable Drags or Does Not look like it does (See 2nd Pic View )
 
Maxed Out says this one was the First of the Senator /Series as it just Has Senator on it !!! no 9/0


Odd Looking area where Big Washer Normally would be covering the External Removable Drags.


Here is the Listing  on E-Bay damn near UPSIDE DOWN Early Model No Ball Bearings and external Removable Drags with logo on Right Side of Free Spool Lever . Sold yesterday Apr. 4 2023 for 154 Bux. plus shipping



Here is a orientated View of the Reel.

Basic Design Here of the 1960's

 

Here is the 1771 Mamf. 1969

Thanks Joe for posting those pix. I have several of these and One NEW IN DA BOX .
I have some pix. (Some Where )of the Innards too.
Have not fished one yet but am anxious to do so .
 Someone made an Aftermarket Mod for a PENN a Reel Similar I have to find that info .  If I recollect it works a little different to the Ocean City . Actually has Brake Shoes inside the plates to engage the Spool .
Don't who came first but don't care either .....lol

Here is another Externally Mounted Gadget by Margis  from 1940' s that is pretty Cool too.
I HAVE one mounted on a Marhoff Rel to show later .



Here is The Reel I have .



Here is some pat  info. from 1944

Clever built in Thumber they call it >



Some info


 
 Some More  info


Even More Info




and Instructions