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PENN REELS / Re: PENN SENATOR 9/0 COMPARISON TO OCEAN CITY 9/0
« Last post by Wompus Cat on May 12, 2025, 04:19:50 PM »
SPOOLS
The differences in Spools is pretty Significant in that the Penn is Much Heavier being Chromed Brass while the Ocean City is way Lighter of Stainless Steel plus the Ends of the  Shaft of the PENN is smaller on the Early Models and the Ocean City is Larger and longer . In later Model Penn's with Ball Bearings they increased the size to  that of OCEAN CITY's.

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PENN REELS / Re: PENN SENATOR 9/0 COMPARISON TO OCEAN CITY 9/0
« Last post by Wompus Cat on May 12, 2025, 04:26:15 AM »
                                                      DRAGS

While both Reels have good sized Drags the Penn has slightly Larger sized Disks.
The one I referenced above is an Early Model Penn and  has SIX  Fiber Disks and are housed in the Main Gear where the Ocean City has only THREE fiber Discs which are much Thicker and are Asbestos and housed in a separate Removable from the outside Stainless Cylinder if you will that has 2 large pins that engage in the Main Gear
. Kinda Cool !!!The Metal Discs on the Penn are also much Thinner than Ocean City's Heavy Stainless Convex Washers.
 
  Some people swear by Greasing the Drags in Reels and also Slop a Gob of Grease all around the Internals which to me is just STOOPID as being in the Garage Business for over 50 years I have yet to see Grease used in Brakes or Clutches  ,
 I Find when oil from the Rear axel seals, Brake Fluid ,Rear Main Seals etc gets on the linings or pads you got problems . You Want Friction not Slip plus on Cars and Trucks braking at most any Sped will just Glaze them over and can actually catch Fire .
( Myth Busters did a thing on trying to Catch a Reel on Fire by Spinning the Drags but didn't happen ) Plus most Fish are not gonna weigh 3 thousand pounds or  more  and pull at 60 miles an hour under the loads Cars and Trucks do . With exception to Some Early Reels that use Leather and paper Drag Discs and Even Metal I say ya Don't need Grease or Oil on them.
 
You say well my Automatic Transmission has oil in it . OK.... whole diff ball of Wax.
Transmissions operate under High Pressures locking the Clutch Discs inside the Drums and when they start Slipping well you know .

In Fishing Reels whether you Grease the Drags or Not all of them when used heavily will eventually Glaze over thus reducing the effectiveness of them BUT you can Service them at regular intervals and just lightly sand off the Glaze and Reuse most of them several times .

  Slathering Gobs  of Grease all over the guts  just  allows the Collection of More Dirt and Grime .
Rather a good  coating of Oil  will do just Fine .
 Just look at the Reels you Tear Down that have Gobs of Grease in them and first off the Main Reason  you are tearing most of them down is that they wont work right because all the Gobs of Grease has Hardened and stuff won't move right anymore.

  It's your Reel so  Do what you want !  ::)
 
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PENN REELS / Re: PENN SENATOR 9/0 COMPARISON TO OCEAN CITY 9/0
« Last post by Wompus Cat on May 10, 2025, 06:39:12 AM »
                 Here is a Start on the Comparisons of these WAR HORSES !


First is a pic of the Guts  on the EARLY PENN SENATOR 9/0 115  REEL With Some Notes
CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE





                                                        Next  is the Ocean City 9/0

AGAIN CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE



Noticeable Differences in these 2 Reels are as  Follows

PENN has a Soft Brass Bridge Sleeve ( the part you put the Handle , Main Gear, and Drag Stack on ) and an OVAL flange to hold the Handle which over time will eventually round off where you would need to replace it or CAN BE RE - SHAPED with Special Tool. Whereas The Ocean City has a STAINLESS more Robust  Sleeve and a Squared Flange to hold the Handle . The inside Diam of the Penn Sleeve is 3.5MM and the Ocean City is 4.5 which makes for a Larger Shaft on the OCEAN CITY Bridge Plate. The  BRASS Bridge Plate  on the PENN has  a wider base  but  is half as thick as the Smaller Stainless Steel Plate on the Ocean City ..Drags ,Spool dimensions and material, etc. 
so Stay Tuned   

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ODD BALL REELS / Re: Gliebe 1954 Catalog
« Last post by Wompus Cat on May 05, 2025, 11:24:11 AM »
COOL LOOKING REELS.
Prob gave Dam Quick some Competition but at 79 bucks maybe Not.
Says   it has virtually a Silent A/R which is Good in my opinion. Most all other Spinning Reels click  when you turn them which is kinda annoying when you are slinking a Worm on the bottom to Entice  O'l Big Mouth Bass.
  Then again it might piss him off enough to attack .
It is called  FISHUN not CATCHIN .........
Your Results May Vary .

   Thanks for the file !
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ODD BALL REELS / Gliebe 1954 Catalog
« Last post by Biggamereels1988 on May 05, 2025, 11:03:36 AM »
Here is the entire Gliebe 1954 Catalog

This company produced 2 different reels. One of these reels sold back in 2010 for $510... Neat. :D
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ZEBCO REELS / First Version ZEBCO 33
« Last post by Wompus Cat on April 29, 2025, 02:44:30 PM »
  THE Very FIRST of the FAMOUS MODEL 33 was made with ALL Metal Components other than the Lil Black Knobs on the Handles.
 They also had Beveled Gears.
Started in 1953 Suggested Retail was 19.95 ( Todays inflationary value would be (238.95)
 
BUT with today's SO CALLED  vastly improved Manufacturing Techniques ,Materials and mass marketing the Newer Versions can be
STILL BE BOUGHT FOR AROUND 22 BUX. WHICH WAS AROUND $1.67 in 1953 WHAT  ????!!!!

NOT the same Quality in my opinion and most certainly doubtful to be around in
75 years  Just Sayin ::)


Now the First ones had NO Anti Reverse


 contrary to most info .

Later Versions had A/R




 THERE are some pretty Rare Versions where the Spinner is PLASTIC. I only seen photos of them  while I have some without the ANTI-Reverse.
  Now the story continues for over  75 MORE YEARS so far  and dozens of Changes to follow .
Pix and stuff coming soon and please Feel Free to add info and pix you may have.
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PENN REELS / PENN SENATOR 9/0 COMPARISON TO OCEAN CITY 9/0
« Last post by Wompus Cat on April 18, 2025, 01:42:36 PM »
Coming Soon side by side Comparisons /  Pics of  Spools,Gears,Cranks, Guts etc.  of each Reel
Both Damn Near BULET PROOF  and STILL GOING STRONG.
ALWAYS Wanted to Do This ...lol
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ZEBCO REELS / ZEBCO ## through the years
« Last post by Wompus Cat on April 18, 2025, 10:53:02 AM »
First is the all metal housing 33 with Beveled Gears and NO ANTI REVERSE !!!
pix to follow soon .
Great TUFF REEL  75 YEARS and Still Going Today .
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PENN REELS / Re: CHINA MADE Penn Senator 113H2 compared to U.S. Made
« Last post by Wompus Cat on March 27, 2025, 08:44:55 PM »
On a Good/Bad Scenario  .
The China Made Penn 113 Sleeve Fitment to Bridge Plate has addition space .
Good as the Originals after time seem to rub against the plate and need to be filed down to keep from grabbing .   
  Bad in that it has a gap allowing debris to get under it .....lol
Here is one that has been  used a while and  shows  some corrosion on the Spool Frame,and posts . The Screws don't seem to have same quality coating as well.

Gap on Sleeve



Corrosion on Screws (Poor Plating)

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3 Different Versions can be found. Badged, Molded Into The Sideplate, or the Sticker! Thanks True Temper, Ya Cheap Bastards...

roflmao



GOOD ONE !!!! ;D
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